This by far is the most hated update of CoC history. Just did a simple google search and I get more hate hits than info hits. Of course, Hitler 'Downfall" has to be one of the most famous commentaries. And there is also the Quintero's show this time as well... Check it out
I believe supercell has heard the messages loud and clear. Here are the things that happened in just last 3 days:
1. They quietly gave out 1 gem boost on EVERYTHING without an announcement. That includes all barracks, factories, collectors and heroes. That's a huge pump into the resource pool
2. Before I came by to say hello to the clan, I was an inactive. Both Kitty and Syd's bases were not touched after days of absence. Full collectors, full loot, no one came to bother our bases. Now,Kitty's base is raided 2-3 times a day despite I haven't logged in at all for days. But Syd's base is still out of sight sitting on perfect full collector without disturbance. So that tells you they are slowly putting inactive back in the queue..
I bet Supercell didn't encounter such a strong community pushback on the updates but too proud to admit they made a mistake. But things will be quietly changing as time goes by. But only time will tell.
Check out Syd's defend log.. Pretty ridiculous if you consider I am sitting on 200K in each collector
Thursday, December 31, 2015
Friday, November 27, 2015
Our Clan's Attacking Ability and Why We Lost
I have always been wanting to find out our clan's attacking ability comparing to the clans we lost to so I can see rooms for improvement for our clan. I have always thought it was because our lacking ability to three star max TH9. Well, my 2 week long data gathering and final analysis told a pretty different story. Check this out:
The data I gathered are from our past 4 war TH9/10 performance comparing to the two clans we lost to.
Data Finding facts:
1. Our TH10's bit lacking 2 starring max TH10 comparing to their equal opponents. So TH10 guys, weight is on you again
2. Our TH10 is much better off dealing with mid level TH10. Hence, maybe TH9.5 can really help
3. Our TH9 can't three star max TH9. Opponent clans can't either, but they do a bit better than us. Overall, we had TH10's help so it came out to be a wash in the max TH9 category
4. Our TH9's ability to three star mid lvl TH9 is pretty good, but still missing more than opponents.
5. TH9 three star overwhelmingly come from hybrid. It's the future. No doubt about it.
6. We faced way more max TH9 than our own, which cost us the wars.
My Conclusion
Although our TH9's ability to three star is still slightly below the opponent clans, but we had TH10's help and Gowipe/Gowiwi did get us some three star as well, overall, we hit better on TH9 as a clan. So why did we lose? Here are the two reasons
The data I gathered are from our past 4 war TH9/10 performance comparing to the two clans we lost to.
Data Finding facts:
1. Our TH10's bit lacking 2 starring max TH10 comparing to their equal opponents. So TH10 guys, weight is on you again
2. Our TH10 is much better off dealing with mid level TH10. Hence, maybe TH9.5 can really help
3. Our TH9 can't three star max TH9. Opponent clans can't either, but they do a bit better than us. Overall, we had TH10's help so it came out to be a wash in the max TH9 category
4. Our TH9's ability to three star mid lvl TH9 is pretty good, but still missing more than opponents.
5. TH9 three star overwhelmingly come from hybrid. It's the future. No doubt about it.
6. We faced way more max TH9 than our own, which cost us the wars.
My Conclusion
Although our TH9's ability to three star is still slightly below the opponent clans, but we had TH10's help and Gowipe/Gowiwi did get us some three star as well, overall, we hit better on TH9 as a clan. So why did we lose? Here are the two reasons
- We were way outmatched on base strength. We had to face 52% max TH9 vs 42% enemy had to face. As the probability to three star a TH9 greatly increases when base strength drops, that gave enemy clans much better advantage to take us out
- TH10's ability to two star max TH10 still needs polishing.
What's NEXT??
1. Maybe we should upgrade to max TH9
1. Maybe we should upgrade to max TH9
So I have advised the TH9 to slow down on defense upgrades. Now I am thinking, man.. I am WRONG!! Maybe we SHOULD just go max like these clans that beat us so we outmatch everybody else! Your thoughts are welcome.
2. When facing 68K or above TH9 bases, prob should just stick with Gowiwi to get 2 star until u are good enough.
2. When facing 68K or above TH9 bases, prob should just stick with Gowiwi to get 2 star until u are good enough.
War Chart #5: 100% outmatched and my thoughts on TH .5
BADLY Outmatched
This is by far the worst match we have experienced ever since I started charting war weights. We were 100% outmatched on every base except 2 equal bases. How is that even a match?? And -56000 deficit on overall clan weight on a 25 base war is very significant. I think the programmers at Supercell needs to write an IF statement that :
My thoughts on .5 Base
After charting 5 wars, here is my thoughts on .5 base scenario
1. The value .5 base brings is obviously the offensive power is greater than it's defense. Overall, it brings down the clan weight.
2. I noticed that the Match will permit +/-2 TH level. Meaning, if we have 5 TH10, then the match can pare you up with 7 TH10 but a bit weaker. So if you had 5 legit TH10 and 2 TH9.5, we could have 9 legit TH10 in opponent clan, which is twice a much as our own. If your TH9.5 has the offense ability to two star their TH10, then it's prob not a big deal, but if not, you are stretching your legit TH10 real thin
3. It's a toss if they match you a TH10 with TH9.5 or max TH9 to your TH9.5. There is no rule, all random.
So with the above observation, given that our TH9.5 do have pretty good offense ability, I would advise not to upgrade to legit TH10.
TH8.5 is a different story. It's very hard to survive as a TH8.5 in the farming world. You can never save loot. Per my own experience, as soon as I built xbows, people stop wiping me 100%. So for your own benefits, I think TH8.5 should just go to a weaker TH9 while max out your troops.
More Thoughts on War Weight
The matchup system is severely flawed. I am hugely disappointed after looking at our last a few war data. When we outmatch opponent on base weight, we dominate, when they outmatch majority of our war bases, we struggle. So it kinda of diminishes this war game to chances unless the clan overall knows how to take down bases regardless how maxed they are. Until then, there is only one rule :
To win wars these days, your only way to outplay the matching game is to be able to three star max TH9 and 2 star any TH10.. Same old same old right??
This is by far the worst match we have experienced ever since I started charting war weights. We were 100% outmatched on every base except 2 equal bases. How is that even a match?? And -56000 deficit on overall clan weight on a 25 base war is very significant. I think the programmers at Supercell needs to write an IF statement that :
If (outmatched base percent > 50%) then DO NOT MATCH
My thoughts on .5 Base
After charting 5 wars, here is my thoughts on .5 base scenario
1. The value .5 base brings is obviously the offensive power is greater than it's defense. Overall, it brings down the clan weight.
2. I noticed that the Match will permit +/-2 TH level. Meaning, if we have 5 TH10, then the match can pare you up with 7 TH10 but a bit weaker. So if you had 5 legit TH10 and 2 TH9.5, we could have 9 legit TH10 in opponent clan, which is twice a much as our own. If your TH9.5 has the offense ability to two star their TH10, then it's prob not a big deal, but if not, you are stretching your legit TH10 real thin
3. It's a toss if they match you a TH10 with TH9.5 or max TH9 to your TH9.5. There is no rule, all random.
So with the above observation, given that our TH9.5 do have pretty good offense ability, I would advise not to upgrade to legit TH10.
TH8.5 is a different story. It's very hard to survive as a TH8.5 in the farming world. You can never save loot. Per my own experience, as soon as I built xbows, people stop wiping me 100%. So for your own benefits, I think TH8.5 should just go to a weaker TH9 while max out your troops.
More Thoughts on War Weight
The matchup system is severely flawed. I am hugely disappointed after looking at our last a few war data. When we outmatch opponent on base weight, we dominate, when they outmatch majority of our war bases, we struggle. So it kinda of diminishes this war game to chances unless the clan overall knows how to take down bases regardless how maxed they are. Until then, there is only one rule :
My win/loss is determined by the probability to outmatch my opponentConclusion
To win wars these days, your only way to outplay the matching game is to be able to three star max TH9 and 2 star any TH10.. Same old same old right??
Tuesday, November 24, 2015
War Chart #4 - Mansoura And the Flaws of Clan War Matchmaking
So this war, we got totally outmatched on our top 14 bases, then Supercell compensated us by throwing in lowly TH7/8. How is that even a good algorithm for war matching??? I have charted 4 wars so far, this is 2nd time. That's 50%!
I also read on Reddit, that they will try to keep the overall clan war weight similar, within 50k. But not necessarily match you horizontally. TH levels are also 2 off in a lot of cases. Meaning, if you have 6 TH10, you can matched with 8. If you have 2 TH9.5, you are totally screwed cuz you can have 4 more TH10 than your own.
Here is this war's chart. Again, our TH9 having trouble with 68K above and needing TH10 help.
I also read on Reddit, that they will try to keep the overall clan war weight similar, within 50k. But not necessarily match you horizontally. TH levels are also 2 off in a lot of cases. Meaning, if you have 6 TH10, you can matched with 8. If you have 2 TH9.5, you are totally screwed cuz you can have 4 more TH10 than your own.
Here is this war's chart. Again, our TH9 having trouble with 68K above and needing TH10 help.
Sunday, November 22, 2015
War Weight Charting 3 : vs Lebnese
So Chad brought up an interesting observation. So if TH9.5 don't work anymore, why we got matched with such easier top bases? Let's take a look at this chart and I have a few observations
1) It's true our top 3 bases totally destroyed their weights. So we didn't pair with max TH10 with lvl 40 heroes.
2) Our TH9.5 completely got destroyed with Thad down 11000 points and Alex down by 12000
3) They also have 9 legit TH10 vs our 5. That's nearly HALF more TH10 bases
4) Overall if you look at just the TH10 weights, we outmatch them by 22000 points, they beat us by whopping 39000 points!!!!
5) Same thing for our TH8.5. Both syd and Sif got screwed by 9000 points.
6) They made us our number (somewhat) by giving us easier TH8, TH7. Wow we got robbed!!!
From our attacking perspective, same old same old. Our TH9 struggle on anything above 67000,68000. Good job to Mike Hawk,only one three a max TH9
So let's keep observing for two more wars.
1) It's true our top 3 bases totally destroyed their weights. So we didn't pair with max TH10 with lvl 40 heroes.
2) Our TH9.5 completely got destroyed with Thad down 11000 points and Alex down by 12000
3) They also have 9 legit TH10 vs our 5. That's nearly HALF more TH10 bases
4) Overall if you look at just the TH10 weights, we outmatch them by 22000 points, they beat us by whopping 39000 points!!!!
5) Same thing for our TH8.5. Both syd and Sif got screwed by 9000 points.
6) They made us our number (somewhat) by giving us easier TH8, TH7. Wow we got robbed!!!
From our attacking perspective, same old same old. Our TH9 struggle on anything above 67000,68000. Good job to Mike Hawk,only one three a max TH9
So let's keep observing for two more wars.
Saturday, November 21, 2015
War Match Charting #2 - Fuerza Blowout Win
We did 67 vs 51. 89.64% destruction. TH10 didn't miss a beat. Two starred every equal opponent and three starred top TH9. As you can tell from this matching chart, they were 72% outmatched, similar to our situation in the previous war. We should be really prod that we didn't get wiped like this..
This war also indicated the same thing as our last war: Our TH9's ability to three star is somewhat capped at 67K weight. That's near max TH9. Once it gets maxed out, we start to have trouble three starring. So if we can up our game to be able to three star 68K bases without TH10's help, we will be in golden shape.
Th10 did awesome!!
This war also indicated the same thing as our last war: Our TH9's ability to three star is somewhat capped at 67K weight. That's near max TH9. Once it gets maxed out, we start to have trouble three starring. So if we can up our game to be able to three star 68K bases without TH10's help, we will be in golden shape.
Th10 did awesome!!
Thursday, November 19, 2015
More on how to three star popular Internet bases
Just bookmarking this page. You can find a ton of videos and maps on this site to show you how to three star a lot of popular Internet bases from TH8 to TH10. Yep, TH10 included too!!
Three Star Internet Bases
Three Star Internet Bases
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